9 Comments to “Proving Calvinism Without Paul Part 1 – Matthew”

  1. K. Tanner Barfield

    Oct 23rd, 2009

    dude you forgot a key one thats in support of limited atonement matt. 26:28. cmon man!

  2. K. Tanner Barfield

    Oct 23rd, 2009

    also the one that talks about jesus dieing just for the sheep matt. 25:32-33

  3. Satchell Drakes

    Oct 24th, 2009

    What exactly is the purpose of this entry. Does this have anything to do with N.T. Wright’s “Justification”? Curious because I’ve been thinking about it a lot lately. Thanks for following me on Twitter…I think.

    Killer website man. Are you a graphic designer? I am.


    Satchell Drakes
    http://www.satchelldrakes.com <—web portfolio

  4. Les

    Oct 24th, 2009

    Satchell, yeah I am a graphic designer. The purpose of this Post is explained here: http://www.killerrobotninja.com/proving-calvinism-intro/

  5. Les

    Oct 24th, 2009

    woah! I love your portfolio. Well done!

  6. Jarred Spengler

    Oct 30th, 2009

    Doesn’t it say in 1 Timothy 2:4 that God wants all men to be saved, and come to a saving knowledge of the truth?
    Didn’t Jesus also want to gather Jerusalem’s children together as a hen gathers her chicks, but they were unwilling? (Matthew 23:37, Luke 13:34)

  7. Les

    Oct 30th, 2009

    Good stuff Jared. :)

    Yeah, it does. So the question is, if He wants all men to be saved, why does he hide the truth from some as the verses I’ve pointed out here clearly display? Why does he harden hearts(Exodus 4:21)? Why does He deny some people repentance, when they seek it with tears(Hebrews 12:17)? Here is the Biblical answer:

    God does not want us to rebel against Him, earning His wrath, and death (Ezekiel 33:11). But when we do He will punish us, in Hell, because He is just. Not because He’s forced to, but because He wants to. Because punishing sin shows His power(Romans 9:22). So we sin. And the Bible says we ALL sin, we ALL fall short, and no one seeks after God(Romans 3:9-12). So here we are, every one of us, defying God, and earning Hell.

    But God in His mercy chose to save some, even though none deserve it. He chose an elect people before the foundation of the earth to demonstrate His loving mercy through.

    So no, God does not want men to defy Him and go to Hell, but he is more than willing to send them there when they do rebel. And anything he gives us that is better than Hell is INCREDIBLE mercy.

    The Matthew passage about the chicks? He’s talking to the leaders, saying I want to gather YOUR CHILDREN, but YOU are not willing. They are hiding the truth of God with their religion and traditions. God has revealed Himself to Israel in abundance, and they were stiff necked and defiant the whole time. God loved Israel, and Israel, in practice, did not love God.

    Really the same thing could be said of all mankind. He wants to gather us, He does not want us to die, but we ALL do. And even though we rebel, He sovereignly saves some of us.

  8. Les

    Nov 5th, 2009

    For Matthew 15:13 Andrew did an awesome job of exegeting the text to show I was most likely misinterpreting it.

    It seems to mean something more along the lines of: The father didn’t plant the traditions, he planted the Law. The traditions will be uprooted.

    Loving this exercise. Great job Andrew!

  9. Cory D. Jones

    Jun 24th, 2010

    I’m way late to this post, but thought I’d give my two cents… Well, it’s basically in response to your response to Jarred. This is a poignant question/comment/reversal… I heard it from james White, but I’m not sure who the original quote is attributed to.

    Background: If you believe the doctrine of original sin, you ascribe to (I’m breaking the rules and using Paul) the “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” doctrine. With that, unless you believe God is under some obligation to provide salvation to sinners, we’re all under the sentence of Hell. (And rightfully so.)

    As Les stated, God choose to save some of the non-deserving people, whoever that may be to suit His good will and purpose.

    Cory’s paraphrase of the original quote: “Therefore, the question should not be why God chooses to damn some, the question should be why God chooses to save some. For that is the true miracle.”


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